Learn how planning ahead for after-death care can help loved ones with grief and loss.

My guest Jokotifa Alaye is a licensed funeral professional and NEDA certified end-of-life doula with a focus on grief. She created Mourning Space to fill the gaps in education and support that society requires for healthy grieving. She discusses the importance of funeral planning as a gift for loved ones, finding a funeral director or celebrant who can help carry out your wishes, and how to foster empowered grieving. Learn more at her website:
This episode includes:
- Jokotifa’s path to becoming a funeral director and death doula
- Why she focuses on empowered grieving through Mourning Space
- Why deathcare providers need better training about grief
- Why rituals at the end of life are important
- What to do if a loved one refuses a funeral
- How and why to plan your own funeral in advance
- Each state and country has unique laws about funerals and disposition
- What hospice providers should know about the removal process to support the family after death
- How to have conversations with loved ones about funeral preferences
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This episode is sponsored by Authentic Presence training for healthcare providers from the Spiritual Care Program. You can receive a certificate in contemplative end-of-life care by completing this series of three courses, including an 8-day residential immersion retreat. Highly recommended!
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