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Ep. 546 The Love List of a Lifetime: Uplifting End-of-Life Planning with Sherry Richert Belul

Learn about an end-of-life planner that helps people share joy and love as they prepare for their later days.

My guest Sherry Richert Belul is the founder of Simply Celebrate and author of The Love List of a Lifetime. She helps people discover creative, heartfelt ways to celebrate life, deepen connection, and express love–while also guiding people to plan for the end-of-life. She is a workshop leader and speaker who emphasizes loving out loud and making moments that matter. Her end-of-life planner The Love List of a Lifetime helps people organize what matters most, share their love, and leave a legacy of connection and care. Learn more at her website:

simplycelebrate.net

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This episode includes:

  • How Sherry is currently finding joy within the depths of her grief
  • The depth of our grief and sorrow is what allows for the breadth of kindness and joy
  • A love list as a gift for someone with a terminal diagnosis
  • Why include something “imperfect” on a love list
  • Why planning for the end of life is an act of great love
  • Start end-of-life planning by making a phone tree of contacts to be notified after your death and include a short message to each person
  • Sharing the stories of the things we plan to pass on to others
  • How sorting through items from the past with a loved one can create new special memories
  • People need to be seen and heard and loved for who they are
  • Say it now – don’t let the moment pass

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Ep. 544 The Queer Grief Club and Inclusive End-of-Life Care with Jamie Thrower

Learn how to better serve the needs of the LGBTQ+ community in grief and at the end of life.

My guest Jamie Thrower is a queer death doula, end-of-life educator and community grief tender serving the LGBTQ+ community in life and in death. She is the founder of Queer Grief Club and the co-creator of The Dementia Deck. We discuss how to offer more inclusive services in our end-of-life care and grief support spaces. Learn more at Jamie’s website:

jamiethrower.com

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This episode includes:

  • Jamie’s story of becoming parentless at age 28
  • How she discovered that grief connected her to others in a beautiful way
  • Why children need to be involved in death and funerals
  • The many layers of grief experienced by a queer person
  • How our systems need to change to become more inclusive
  • What we can do as individuals to make our care more welcoming to the queer community
  • Hidden bias in our paperwork and forms for people in the LGBTQ+ community
  • The importance of advance directives for queer people

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Ep. 542 Estate Transition: An Important Part of End-of-Life Planning with Dan Stickel

Learn about a software resource that helps people navigate estate planning and settlement and find greater peace at the end of life.

My guest Dan Stickel is the Founder and CEO of EstateExec, a cloud-based software solution estate administration and settlement. If you’ve ever served as the executor for an estate you know how challenging it can be to manage financial decisions while grieving after a death has occurred. Dan explains how this software eases the burden for loved ones and avoids common mistakes, and also why it should be part of end-of-life planning. Learn more at the website:

estateexec.com

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This episode includes:

  • Why Dan created EstateExec based on his own experience
  • Most people don’t have a will and why that may or may not be a problem
  • How the EstateExec app helps people navigate the estate settlement process after a death occurs
  • The common issues estate executors struggle with
  • Why the estate transition process can’t be rushed and each step is important
  • Simple steps in planning an estate in advance that could make a big difference for survivors
  • Many states have laws to protect families financially after a death
  • Why death doulas and hospice workers may want to encourage estate planning before death for peace of mind and less family conflict

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Ep. 536 Never Can Say Goodbye: The Life of a Death Doula with Darnell Lamont Walker

Learn about a powerful memoir from the life of a death doula who was inspired by his grandmother to sit with the dying.

My guest Darnell Lamont Walker is a death doula, Emmy-nominated children’s television writer, producer and explorer. He creates spaces worldwide for healing through storytelling, end-of-life care, and workshops on grief, resilience, unlocking the writer within, and radical empathy. He is the author of the newly published memoir Never Can Say Goodbye: The Life of a Death Doula and The Art of a Peaceful End published by HarperCollins. Learn more at his website:

darnellwalker.com

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This episode includes:

  • How Darnell was first introduced to end-of-life care by his grandmother
  • The power of storytelling
  • Why caring for the dying seems foreign to some people but is actually an innate ability
  • Why we should be training children at a young age to be present with dying or we may pass on our own fear of death
  • Death within the Black community and the impact of systemic racism, generational trauma, and unequal access to healthcare on end-of-life decision-making
  • Why listening first is the best way to build trust and get people to talk about difficult subjects
  • Why we can make better choices for life when we become aware of our mortality

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Ep. 535 Planning Your Funeral and Legacy Online with Paul Fried

Learn about a helpful online platform for end-of-life planning and the benefits of using technology for this work.

My guest Paul Fried is an entrepreneur who recognized a need to reshape how we think about end-of-life planning. He founded a digital-first platform that focuses on compassionate funeral planning, digital legacy preservation, and emotional wellness titled I Made the Arrangements. He discusses the value of recording our end-of-life wishes and messages digitally for the sake of our loved ones. Paul is also the author of the book Live Fully. Leave Wisely: End-of-Life Planning as the Ultimate Act of Love. Learn more at his website:

Imadethearrangements.com

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This episode includes:

  • How Paul’s ancestry and personal history led him to create I Made the Arrangements
  • Why digital planning services are important right now
  • The disastrous consequences of not planning ahead or talking about our end-of-life wishes
  • Why employers are starting to offer online end-of-life planning as a benefit to their employees
  • How technology is rapidly advancing to help people reconnect with holographic images of their loved ones
  • How “wishkeepers” help secure their loved ones’ legacies
  • Resources available on the website

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Ep. 534 Sacred Dying: Honoring the Legacy of Megory Anderson with Jeremy Damec

Learn about the beautiful contribution of Dr. Megory Anderson to the field of sacred death and dying and how her legacy lives on 7 years after her death.

My guest Jeremy Damec is a NEDA-certified death doula and a grief counselor who has also completed chaplaincy training and worked at a funeral home. He was a friend and mentee of Megory Anderson and knew her well during the years prior to her untimely and unexpected death in 2019. We discuss her pioneering contributions to end-of-life care and her book Sacred Dying along with our own stories of being inspired by Megory’s wisdom on the 7th anniversary since her death. Learn more about Jeremy’s work:

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This episode includes:

  • Megory’s book Sacred Dying as a valuable resource for all death workers
  • How Jeremy got to know Megory Anderson
  • Jeremy’s experience sitting vigil with Megory before she died
  • How Jeremy still learns from Megory in his work
  • Honoring Megory as a pioneer in the sacred aspect of death and dying
  • What Jeremy has been inspired to create through the Death and Grief Worker Collective

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Ep. 532 Writing Your Obituary as Part of End-of-Life Planning with Gail Shapiro

Learn how and why to write your own obituary as a legacy project.

My guest Gail Shapiro is a seasoned writer and editor and also a professional organizer who has guided many people through the details of end-of-life planning. She also helps people write memorable obituaries for themselves and others and today discusses why this process is an important part of end-of-life planning. She shares tips and best practices for writing an obituary and how she can help when we aren’t sure what to include or how to say what we mean. Learn more at her website:

gailshapiro.com

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This episode includes:

  • How Gail became interested in obituary writing
  • Why an obituary can also be a legacy project
  • Why should we consider writing our own obituary rather than leaving it to someone else
  • What should an obituary include
  • What should NOT be in an obituary
  • Best practices for writing a beautiful obit
  • How AI can make serious mistakes in obituary writing and cannot replace the human touch
  • What services Gail provides for those who aren’t comfortable doing their own writing

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Ep. 529 The Dementia Deck: Preparing for Future Decisions with Lisa Pahl and Jamie Thrower

Learn about a helpful conversation game that encourages discussions about advance care planning for dementia.

My guests for this episode, Lisa Pahl and Jamie Thrower, are the co-creators of The Dementia Deck, a new card game to help inspire conversations about demential. Lisa is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Certified Advanced Practice Hospice and Palliative Social Worker who previously created The Death Deck and The EOL Deck–conversation games that are changing the way we talk about death. Jamie is a queer death doula, end-of-life educator and community grief-tender serving the LGBTQ+ community in life and in death. She also runs Queer Grief Club (and I plan to have her back on the podcast to talk about her work!) They discuss how to use The Dementia Deck to overcome fears of dementia and help families prepare for future changes and decision-making. Learn more at their websites:

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This episode includes:

  • What The Death Deck and The EOL Deck consist of
  • The story behind The Dementia Deck and its creation
  • How Jamie collaborated on the design of the deck
  • Why conversations and advance care planning are important for people with dementia
  • Many people fear dementia even more than death
  • Millions of Americans are impacted by dementia either as a patient or a caregiver
  • How to introduce The Dementia Deck to an individual
  • Tips for getting the most out of working with the deck
  • Why it’s important to “stack the deck” when you first begin talking about dementia

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Ep. 527 Transforming Veteran Care Through Stories, Art, and Theatre with Qwynn Galloway-Salazar PhD

Learn about a powerful course and theatre initiative to redefine how we care for veterans at the end of life.

My return guest, Dr. Qwynn Galloway-Salazar is an Army Veteran, end-of-life doula educator, and an advocate for redefining how nations honor and support veterans and their loved ones through the end of life. She is the creator of the course Caring for Veterans Through the End of Life and a new initiative We Hold the Line, which uses applied theatre to teach about veteran care through a story monologue. Today’s conversation focuses on the history and scope of Qwynn’s work and the importance of honoring and caring for veterans through aging, loss, and the end of life. Learn more at these website:

intheirhonor.info

psycharmor.org/caring-for-veterans-through-end-of-life

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This episode includes:

  • The widespread embrace of the Caring for Veterans course
  • Qwynn’s experience as a George W. Bush Institute Veteran Leadership Scholar
  • How Qwynn was inspired to bring this material to the stage
  • Why theatre is a powerful medium for sharing a message
  • Why we need collaboration now to change the way we approach the end of life in our society
  • How Qwynn followed her intuition to create this work
  • The importance of “taking the next right step” and saying yes to opportunities even when we can’t see or imagine the outcome
  • The concerning incidence of suicide for veterans

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Ep. 526 End-of-Life Planning: Small Steps to Complete the Work with Jennifer Tadjedin and Karen Callahan

Learn how “peace-of-mind” planning starts with a few small steps that are doable and make a big difference.

My guests this week, Jennifer Tadjedin and Karen Callahan, are the co-founders of The Heartwood Collective where they guide people through all facets of developing a death plan (other than financial and estate planning.) They discuss how their paths crossed as they began exploring new meaningful work around helping other people with planning and preparing for the end of life. Learn more at their website:

theheartwoodcollective.com

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This episode includes:

  • The power of collaboration and synergy to create new ideas
  • Why we need to begin with death education and helping people get more comfortable with death before we can make other changes
  • How their workshops normalize talking about death
  • Breaking big tasks into small steps helps people actually get the work done
  • How planning ahead helps lessen stress and grief for loved ones
  • The biggest barriers to end-of-life planning for most people
  • Some people find it easier to discuss death as they get older
  • The benefits of working in a group on end-of-life planning
  • How to choose the best person as a healthcare proxy

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Ep. 524 Meeting the Challenges of End-of-Life Care with Cathy Yuhas RN

Learn about a new book that addresses challenges faced by patients, providers, and caregivers at the end of life.

My guest Cathy Yuhas is an RN and certified end-of-life doula who founded Dying Matters, LLC to advocate for conscious, compassionate end-of-life care. She is also the author of a new book: Walking Each Other Home: Guiding Caregivers and Community Through the Sacred Passage of Death. Learn more at her website:

dyingmatters.llc

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This episode includes:

  • Cathy’s journey from being an RN to becoming an EOL doula
  • What inspired Cathy to write Walking Each Other Home
  • The importance of honest patient-provider communication when serious illness is diagnosed
  • How our medical system currently fails patients and their families when the end of life is approaching
  • The “caregiver starter kit” Cathy created and why it is essential to care for those who care for others
  • Shifting healthcare from an outcome-driven approach to one guided by values instead
  • The aging population and the growing shortage of end-of-life care options for seniors

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Ep. 517 Lessons the Dying Teach Us About Living with Diane Button

Learn about a heartwarming book of end-of-life teaching stories about the “little things” that make life meaningful.

My guest Diane Button is an end-of-life doula, a founding partner of the Bay Area End-of-Life Doula Alliance in Northern California, and an instructor for the University of Vermont’s End-of-Life Doula Professional Certificate Program. She has been a NEDA board member and a hospice volunteer and is the author of the newly published book What Matters Most: Lessons the Dying Teach Us About Living. She discusses the book and the importance of storytelling and legacy projects. Learn more at her website:

dianebutton.com

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This episode includes:

  • What inspired Diane to write this book
  • Why storytelling is important as we help our society become more death aware
  • The Joy Counter and other stories from the book
  • The value of “the little things” of life to help us create meaning
  • Why legacy projects are helpful as we approach the end of life
  • How Diane helps people create their own legacy projects
  • What is the “Final Checklist”
  • Who can benefit from reading this book
  • How this work has impacted Diane’s life

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Ep. 516 Ethical Service for End-of-Life Workers with Kathy Ginn

Learn why the qualities of ethical service are important for everyone who cares for others at the end of life.

My guest Kathy Ginn is a massage therapist and bodyworker who is also an End-of-Life Care Doula, Grief Companion, author, and educator. She is the founder of Ethical Dimensions continuing education platform and the author of the book: The Soul of Ethical Service – Seven Qualities to Embrace in Your Professional Healing Relationships. Today she reaches why transformative ethics are the heart of our caring services and how to cultivate the qualities that will help us better serve others at the end of life. Learn more at her websites:

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This episode includes:

  • How Kathy became interested in ethics and end-of-life care
  • What is “ethical service”
  • Why ethical service can be transformative
  • The 7 qualities that define ethical service
  • How cultivating these qualities can help us as we provide care to people at the end of life
  • How to assess and improve our ability to serve others with integrity

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What Death Doulas Offer at the End of Life

And why you need to know about their work

In my position as a retired hospice physician I often hear stories of end-of-life experiences that did not go well for patients or their families, both in the hospital and at home. When people describe the challenges theyโ€™ve faced, even when working with a local hospice, I tell them that a death doula might have made all the difference. But most have never heard of a death doula and have no idea what they do.

Unfortunately many people are unaware of this rather new field of deathcare that is poised to change how people and their loved ones navigate death, dying, and what comes after. But Iโ€™m here to tell you about it so you can have more options and make better decisions for yourself and your loved ones when you are in a time of need.


What Is a Death Doula?

A death doula is a non-medical guide who offers emotional, spiritual, and practical support before, during, and after death. We often say that death is much more than a medical experienceโ€”it is a personal, emotional, spiritual, familial, societal experience that we have largely chosen to ignore for the past century. Most people at the end of life need far more than medical care alone can offer.

Hospices have been created to help with the medical aspects of care and also offer social work and chaplaincy support. But in this modern world of Western medicine, hospice staff members are often carrying heavy caseloads and may have constraints on the time they can spend with patients and families. Many gaps in care can arise for those being served at their time of greatest need, which leads to the stories of suffering Iโ€™m often told.

Unlike hospice nurses, who manage the medical aspects of end-of-life care, death doulas arenโ€™t bound by institutional rules or time limits. They show up and fill in the gaps during those times of great need. In the best of worlds they work alongside the hospice staff, each offering their expertise and collaborating for the best care possible. But when the hospice staff experiences pressure to shorten visits, the death doula is more able to focus on presence for as long as needed.


What Do Death Doulas Actually Do?

The services offered by death doulas vary widely and some may choose to specialize in one area or another. Some doulas sit at the bedside, some hold space in advance when illness is newly diagnosed, some serve the dying directly through the last breath, others assist families and caregivers with after-death plans.

What unites them is a passion for changing how we care for people at the end of life. The people called to this work are devoted and excel at being present during times of suffering with love and compassion. Here is a list of some core services provided by death doulas:

  • Death educationย โ€“ helping people understand the dying process, physically and spiritually, including early in the process of illness
  • Advance directives & planningย โ€“ guiding people through end-of-life paperwork with compassion
  • Ritual designย โ€“ creating meaningful vigils, farewells, or legacy ceremonies
  • Family supportย โ€“ helping loved ones navigate grief, guilt, and decision-making
  • Hospice augmentationย โ€“ providing what hospice often canโ€™t: time, touch, storytelling, bedside presence
  • After-death guidanceย โ€“ assisting with body care, home funerals, or grief rituals
  • Meaning-makingย โ€“ helping the dying reflect on life, purpose, forgiveness, and legacy

Why This Work Is Still So Unknown

While the modern death doula movement got started in the early 2000โ€™s, the work of providing support to the dying is ancient and used to be available in every neighborhood and village. But modern healthcare and burial practices that emerged at the turn of the 20th century caused a dramatic shift in illness and death care away from the family home and into institutions. So over the span of a half century we lost all the intrinsic knowledge of how to care for our own dying loved onesโ€”and we made death taboo, the very aspect of life we used to hold near us so tenderly.

The death doula movement is trying to revitalize the โ€œold waysโ€ of being with dying in a new formโ€”not necessarily a next-door neighbor, but trained helper who can show up at your door in a time of need with just the right tools to offer. Most people are unaware of death doulas and many communities lack access to this kind of care because the movement is still young. But things are changing and we can help them change fasterโ€”by talking about death doulas and sharing whatโ€™s possible. And also by getting training ourselves so that we can be the ones holding presence when the people we love are at the end of life.


Why Everyone Needs What Death Doulas Offer

Itโ€™s hard for most of us to imagine what the end of our own lives might be like. If we have not experienced the death of someone close to us we have no idea what it involves and what it takes to make the last breath as peaceful and loving as possible. Thatโ€™s one reason why so many people are caught off guard when they suddenly find themselves caring for someone 24/7 with absolutely no training or understanding of whatโ€™s happening.

Take it from those of us who have been through these scenarios many timesโ€”you will need support when someone you love is dying and at the time of your own death. Youโ€™ll be better off if you spend some time now learning about the work of death doulas and if there are any in your community.

Some aspects of death care that you may not think of nowโ€”but you will need laterโ€”include:

  • Permission to grieveโ€”not just at the time of death but throughout the process of illness
  • Time to reflect on life and relationships and what is needed for healing old emotional wounds
  • A sense of meaning and tying up loose ends; making sense of the events of life and how they have mysteriously unfolded for you
  • Guidance when systems fall short, which they inevitable will; you will have impossible decisions to make and will need support through that process
  • A calm, compassionate presence that can change everything for the people going through loss; a tragic experience can become sacred in the presence of love
  • A role model for how to show up for one anotherโ€”not just in dying, but in living with more depth

โ€œIf you donโ€™t need a death doula today, you will someday. Or someone you love will. And when that time comes, I hope you know they exist.โ€

Death Doulas and Modern Technology

At this time of rapidly expanding technology and artificial intelligence there is even more need for the human touch and heart-based presence of a human death doula. While AI may be able to augment the work of doulas by recording advance directives, researching funeral poetry and customs, or offering tips to caregiversโ€”in the quiet moments and the liminal spaces where the breath falters and the veil is thinโ€”the touch of a human hand, the tear that falls on a cheek, the softly whispered blessing, are not replaceable.

Death doulas may choose to use AI themselves to augment their training, to learn about unfamiliar cultural or religious death traditions, to find recipes for a clientโ€™s special dietary needs, or the perfect prayer for a vigil. But they should not fear the technologyโ€”the need for human presence will never disappear.


How to Choose a Death Doula

Remember that there are many different types of services offered by death doulas, so be clear about what type of help you need. Consider factors like training, area of specialization, availability, experience, and certification when making a choice. Many doulas will offer a free consultation to get acquainted before you decide who to hire.

Check with local hospices, palliative care facilities or community websites to find out if there are doulas in your area. In addition the following organizations have national doula registries where you can search within your state and community:

Be sure to talk to your loved ones if youโ€™re interested in the possibility of hiring a death doula. Let them know that everyone benefits when the right care and assistance are available. And now that you know about death doulas pass this information on to others who may need it as well.

You matter because you are you, and you matter to the end of your life. We will do all we can not only to help you die peacefully,
but also to live until you die.ย 

-Cicely Saunders

Check out my next post on Substack where Iโ€™ll explore how AI might help us deepen our own death awareness.ย 

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Ep. 512 Navigating a Life-Changing Diagnosis: Action Steps with Hsien Seow PhD

Learn about a helpful workbook and a free workshop toolkit to support people who are navigating a life-changing diagnosis.

My return guest Dr. Hsien Seow is a palliative care researcher and a professor in the Department of Oncology at McMaster University. He is a co-host with Sammy Winemaker MD of The Waiting Room Revolution Podcast and they are both the authors of the book Hope for the Best Plan for the Rest. Today we discuss the new workbook that accompanies the book and a workshop toolkit they are offering at no charge. Learn more at the website:

waitingroomrevolution.com

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This episode includes:

  • Why Hsien and Sammy created a workbook for their book
  • What the workbook consists of – reflections, exercises, FAQ’s
  • The power of learning from one another about navigating illness
  • The Ambassador Program and the free downloadable workshop that people can access and teach to others
  • Toolkit included with the “workshop in a box”
  • The goal is to create empowered patients and families
  • Why the workshop toolkit would work well for doulas and hospice providers
  • This information is for caregivers and loved ones as well as patients
  • The public health palliative care approach to illness
  • International audience reaction to the book
  • The value of “relational care” in the medical setting

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Ep. 511 Being with Dying: Teaching Death to Medical Students with Kevin Dieter MD

Learn about innovative educational programs for medical students and the impact they are having.

My special guest Dr. Kevin Dieter is a family medicine and hospice and palliative care physician who helped to develop the nationally recognized palliative care curriculum at Northeast Ohio Medical University. He created a virtual learning module called “Being with Dying” for medical and pharmacy students to teach them what they need to know to be at the bedside of a dying patient. He discusses the course he offers, including training healthcare providers. Learn more from his website:

walking-home.com

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This episode includes:

  • How Kevin first learned about end-of-life care from his patient “Mary”
  • How Kevin went from being a family doctor to a hospice doctor
  • The value of exposing medical students to dying patients
  • 3 Pillars of wisdom:
    • dying are our teachers both directly and indirectly
    • we are the medicine for patients in our presence
    • dying is more than a medical event
  • How he helped initiate a learning experience called “The Hospice Patient as Teacher” for 3rd year medical students
  • How patients don’t want their physician to “run away” when they are dying
  • The power of home visits for patients
  • What “Being with Dying” consists of
  • Why this course can be replicated by other programs
  • Why he no longer talks about “good” or “bad” deaths
  • How Kevin became an Anam Cara

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Ep. 510 Training Death Literacy Educators with Francesca Lynn Arnoldy

Learn about an exciting new training to become a Death Literacy Educator and teach in your community.

My return guest Francesca Lynn Arnoldy is a doula and a published researcher with the Vermont Conversation Lab and she runs a program for Death Literacy Educators. She is the author of The Death Doula’s Guide to Living Fully and Dying Prepared, My Death Journal, The Map of Memory Lane, and Cultivating the Doula Heart. Today she discusses the importance of training educators who can help our communities grow in knowledge, understanding, and awareness of death. Learn more at her website:

francescalynnarnoldy.com

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This episode includes:

  • What is death literacy
  • Why Francesca created this program
  • Training includes curricula and also tools for running a workshop and market it
  • Who might be interested in becoming a Death Literacy Educator
  • Why this movement needs space holders and not exclusively people who are dealing with death and loss themselves
  • What students experience during this training
  • Importance of sharing stories about death and grief
  • How the training helps students find clarity in their teaching and determine the content they prefer to teach
  • Tutorials and tools offered during the training
  • Grant created with Compassion & Choices to provide special training
  • The value of “attentional listening”

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Ep. 505 How Death Doulas Fill the Gaps in End-of-Life Care with Kacie Gikonyo RN

Learn how death doulas are improving end-of-life care in our medical system by tending to things that often get ignored.

Portrait of Kacie Gikonyo, RN and Death Doula, guest on End-of-Life University podcast episode discussing how death doulas support better dying experiences.

In this episode, Iโ€™m joined by Kacie Gikonyo, founder of The Death Doula Collective and Death Doula School. Drawing on more than a decade of nursing experience, Kacie shares how death doulas are helping to transform end-of-life care by addressing the emotional, spiritual, and relational needs that often go unmet by the medical system. We discuss the gaps in Western medical care, the shifts needed in how we approach dying, and how death doulas are bridging the divide with presence, advocacy, and compassion. Learn more at her website:

deathdoulakacie.com

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This episode includes:

  • The limitations of Western medical care at the end of life
  • What death doulas provide that hospitals and hospice often cannot
  • How cultural mindset shifts could improve death care for everyone
  • Why presence and non-medical support are essential for a good death
  • Training and certification insights from the Death Doula School
  • Stories of transformation from Kacieโ€™s doula practice

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Ep. 499 Death as a Shift in Consciousness with Felicity Warner

Learn about the value of viewing death through a spiritual lens rather than just as an ending of the physical body.

My guest Felicity Warner is the founder of Soul Midwivesโ„ข a global movement to teach holistic and spiritual end-of-life care. She has been working with death and dying for 35 years and her work is often used in hospitals, hospices, and care homes. She also teaches on the use of sacred oils at the end of life and will share that information today along with her insights about the five energetic stages of death. Felicity is also the author of The Soul Midwife’s Handbook, which will released later this year as an updated second edition and she is currently teaching a course on sacred oils for The Shift Network. Learn more at her website:

soulmidwives.co.uk

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This episode includes:

  • What is a “soul midwife” and how Felicity came to do this work
  • The five energetic stages of death and how they show up when people are dying
  • The role of sacred oils in supporting the dying
  • How death can be viewed as a shift in consciousness rather than an ending
  • How Western medicine is missing the emotional and spiritual perspective on life and death
  • What Felicity’s course on sacred oils will consist of
  • How we as deathcare workers can be more present to the emotional and spiritual needs of the dying

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Ep. 498 Memory Bears and Grief in Community with Michelle Sebern RN

Learn how a project making memory bears for people who are grieving is opening the door to conversation about the end of life.

My guest Michelle Sebern is an RN who trained as an end-of-life doula to channel her skills and passion into more community-focused work. When she found her rural community wasn’t quite ready to receive end-of-life doula services she decided to find a more creative way to give back. She will share how she founded The Memory Bear Maker and now creates customized bears to help people in their grief and begin end-of-life conversations. Learn more at her website:

thememorybearmaker.com

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This episode includes:

  • Michelle’s journey from nurse to doula and memory bear maker
  • The challenges of introducing doula services into a community not quite ready for that step
  • How she discovered memory bears to be the perfect blend of her passions
  • How memory bears help with grief
  • Why the bears are an alternate doorway into end-of-life education and conversations
  • How grief unites people by dissolving barriers
  • The magic of storytelling that comes with memory bear making

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