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Ep. 524 Meeting the Challenges of End-of-Life Care with Cathy Yuhas RN

Learn about a new book that addresses challenges faced by patients, providers, and caregivers at the end of life.

My guest Cathy Yuhas is an RN and certified end-of-life doula who founded Dying Matters, LLC to advocate for conscious, compassionate end-of-life care. She is also the author of a new book: Walking Each Other Home: Guiding Caregivers and Community Through the Sacred Passage of Death. Learn more at her website:

dyingmatters.llc

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This episode includes:

  • Cathy’s journey from being an RN to becoming an EOL doula
  • What inspired Cathy to write Walking Each Other Home
  • The importance of honest patient-provider communication when serious illness is diagnosed
  • How our medical system currently fails patients and their families when the end of life is approaching
  • The “caregiver starter kit” Cathy created and why it is essential to care for those who care for others
  • Shifting healthcare from an outcome-driven approach to one guided by values instead
  • The aging population and the growing shortage of end-of-life care options for seniors

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Ep. 521 Caring House: A Residence for Hospice Care with David Zartman and Joanna Franco

My two guests this week are administrators of Caring House, a non-profit residence for hospice patients in Torrance, California. David Zartman is the Executive Director of Caring House having previously been a successful entrepreneur. Joanna Franco is the Director of Operations with many years of experience as both a caregiver and a residential care coordinator and manager. They discuss the history of Caring House and how residences like this are essential for communities that want to fully support end-of-life care for their people. Learn more at the Caring House website:

yourcaringhouse.org

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This episode includes:

  • The history of Caring House
  • The long journey of establishing an Omega Home as a residence for hospice patients
  • What services are provided by Caring House and similar homes
  • Who qualifies to reside there
  • The benefits of “death in community” where several patients and families are experiencing the end of life in the same facility at the same time
  • How staff processes grief after the death of a patient
  • Rituals and traditions followed after a patient death
  • How care is paid for at Caring House

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Ep. 517 Lessons the Dying Teach Us About Living with Diane Button

Learn about a heartwarming book of end-of-life teaching stories about the “little things” that make life meaningful.

My guest Diane Button is an end-of-life doula, a founding partner of the Bay Area End-of-Life Doula Alliance in Northern California, and an instructor for the University of Vermont’s End-of-Life Doula Professional Certificate Program. She has been a NEDA board member and a hospice volunteer and is the author of the newly published book What Matters Most: Lessons the Dying Teach Us About Living. She discusses the book and the importance of storytelling and legacy projects. Learn more at her website:

dianebutton.com

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This episode includes:

  • What inspired Diane to write this book
  • Why storytelling is important as we help our society become more death aware
  • The Joy Counter and other stories from the book
  • The value of “the little things” of life to help us create meaning
  • Why legacy projects are helpful as we approach the end of life
  • How Diane helps people create their own legacy projects
  • What is the “Final Checklist”
  • Who can benefit from reading this book
  • How this work has impacted Diane’s life

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What Death Doulas Offer at the End of Life

And why you need to know about their work

In my position as a retired hospice physician I often hear stories of end-of-life experiences that did not go well for patients or their families, both in the hospital and at home. When people describe the challenges they’ve faced, even when working with a local hospice, I tell them that a death doula might have made all the difference. But most have never heard of a death doula and have no idea what they do.

Unfortunately many people are unaware of this rather new field of deathcare that is poised to change how people and their loved ones navigate death, dying, and what comes after. But I’m here to tell you about it so you can have more options and make better decisions for yourself and your loved ones when you are in a time of need.


What Is a Death Doula?

A death doula is a non-medical guide who offers emotional, spiritual, and practical support before, during, and after death. We often say that death is much more than a medical experience—it is a personal, emotional, spiritual, familial, societal experience that we have largely chosen to ignore for the past century. Most people at the end of life need far more than medical care alone can offer.

Hospices have been created to help with the medical aspects of care and also offer social work and chaplaincy support. But in this modern world of Western medicine, hospice staff members are often carrying heavy caseloads and may have constraints on the time they can spend with patients and families. Many gaps in care can arise for those being served at their time of greatest need, which leads to the stories of suffering I’m often told.

Unlike hospice nurses, who manage the medical aspects of end-of-life care, death doulas aren’t bound by institutional rules or time limits. They show up and fill in the gaps during those times of great need. In the best of worlds they work alongside the hospice staff, each offering their expertise and collaborating for the best care possible. But when the hospice staff experiences pressure to shorten visits, the death doula is more able to focus on presence for as long as needed.


What Do Death Doulas Actually Do?

The services offered by death doulas vary widely and some may choose to specialize in one area or another. Some doulas sit at the bedside, some hold space in advance when illness is newly diagnosed, some serve the dying directly through the last breath, others assist families and caregivers with after-death plans.

What unites them is a passion for changing how we care for people at the end of life. The people called to this work are devoted and excel at being present during times of suffering with love and compassion. Here is a list of some core services provided by death doulas:

  • Death education – helping people understand the dying process, physically and spiritually, including early in the process of illness
  • Advance directives & planning – guiding people through end-of-life paperwork with compassion
  • Ritual design – creating meaningful vigils, farewells, or legacy ceremonies
  • Family support – helping loved ones navigate grief, guilt, and decision-making
  • Hospice augmentation – providing what hospice often can’t: time, touch, storytelling, bedside presence
  • After-death guidance – assisting with body care, home funerals, or grief rituals
  • Meaning-making – helping the dying reflect on life, purpose, forgiveness, and legacy

Why This Work Is Still So Unknown

While the modern death doula movement got started in the early 2000’s, the work of providing support to the dying is ancient and used to be available in every neighborhood and village. But modern healthcare and burial practices that emerged at the turn of the 20th century caused a dramatic shift in illness and death care away from the family home and into institutions. So over the span of a half century we lost all the intrinsic knowledge of how to care for our own dying loved ones—and we made death taboo, the very aspect of life we used to hold near us so tenderly.

The death doula movement is trying to revitalize the “old ways” of being with dying in a new form—not necessarily a next-door neighbor, but trained helper who can show up at your door in a time of need with just the right tools to offer. Most people are unaware of death doulas and many communities lack access to this kind of care because the movement is still young. But things are changing and we can help them change faster—by talking about death doulas and sharing what’s possible. And also by getting training ourselves so that we can be the ones holding presence when the people we love are at the end of life.


Why Everyone Needs What Death Doulas Offer

It’s hard for most of us to imagine what the end of our own lives might be like. If we have not experienced the death of someone close to us we have no idea what it involves and what it takes to make the last breath as peaceful and loving as possible. That’s one reason why so many people are caught off guard when they suddenly find themselves caring for someone 24/7 with absolutely no training or understanding of what’s happening.

Take it from those of us who have been through these scenarios many times—you will need support when someone you love is dying and at the time of your own death. You’ll be better off if you spend some time now learning about the work of death doulas and if there are any in your community.

Some aspects of death care that you may not think of now—but you will need later—include:

  • Permission to grieve—not just at the time of death but throughout the process of illness
  • Time to reflect on life and relationships and what is needed for healing old emotional wounds
  • A sense of meaning and tying up loose ends; making sense of the events of life and how they have mysteriously unfolded for you
  • Guidance when systems fall short, which they inevitable will; you will have impossible decisions to make and will need support through that process
  • A calm, compassionate presence that can change everything for the people going through loss; a tragic experience can become sacred in the presence of love
  • A role model for how to show up for one another—not just in dying, but in living with more depth

“If you don’t need a death doula today, you will someday. Or someone you love will. And when that time comes, I hope you know they exist.”

Death Doulas and Modern Technology

At this time of rapidly expanding technology and artificial intelligence there is even more need for the human touch and heart-based presence of a human death doula. While AI may be able to augment the work of doulas by recording advance directives, researching funeral poetry and customs, or offering tips to caregivers—in the quiet moments and the liminal spaces where the breath falters and the veil is thin—the touch of a human hand, the tear that falls on a cheek, the softly whispered blessing, are not replaceable.

Death doulas may choose to use AI themselves to augment their training, to learn about unfamiliar cultural or religious death traditions, to find recipes for a client’s special dietary needs, or the perfect prayer for a vigil. But they should not fear the technology—the need for human presence will never disappear.


How to Choose a Death Doula

Remember that there are many different types of services offered by death doulas, so be clear about what type of help you need. Consider factors like training, area of specialization, availability, experience, and certification when making a choice. Many doulas will offer a free consultation to get acquainted before you decide who to hire.

Check with local hospices, palliative care facilities or community websites to find out if there are doulas in your area. In addition the following organizations have national doula registries where you can search within your state and community:

Be sure to talk to your loved ones if you’re interested in the possibility of hiring a death doula. Let them know that everyone benefits when the right care and assistance are available. And now that you know about death doulas pass this information on to others who may need it as well.

You matter because you are you, and you matter to the end of your life. We will do all we can not only to help you die peacefully,
but also to live until you die. 

-Cicely Saunders

Check out my next post on Substack where I’ll explore how AI might help us deepen our own death awareness. 

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Ep. 511 Being with Dying: Teaching Death to Medical Students with Kevin Dieter MD

Learn about innovative educational programs for medical students and the impact they are having.

My special guest Dr. Kevin Dieter is a family medicine and hospice and palliative care physician who helped to develop the nationally recognized palliative care curriculum at Northeast Ohio Medical University. He created a virtual learning module called “Being with Dying” for medical and pharmacy students to teach them what they need to know to be at the bedside of a dying patient. He discusses the course he offers, including training healthcare providers. Learn more from his website:

walking-home.com

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This episode includes:

  • How Kevin first learned about end-of-life care from his patient “Mary”
  • How Kevin went from being a family doctor to a hospice doctor
  • The value of exposing medical students to dying patients
  • 3 Pillars of wisdom:
    • dying are our teachers both directly and indirectly
    • we are the medicine for patients in our presence
    • dying is more than a medical event
  • How he helped initiate a learning experience called “The Hospice Patient as Teacher” for 3rd year medical students
  • How patients don’t want their physician to “run away” when they are dying
  • The power of home visits for patients
  • What “Being with Dying” consists of
  • Why this course can be replicated by other programs
  • Why he no longer talks about “good” or “bad” deaths
  • How Kevin became an Anam Cara

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Ep. 509 A Future Path for Hospice and Palliative Care with Ira Byock MD

Learn about Dr. Ira Byock’s strategic vision for approaching the major issues facing hospice and palliative care.

My guest Dr. Ira Byock is a leading palliative care physician, author, and public advocate for improving care through the end of life. He is the author of the books Dying Well, The Four Things that Matter Most, and The Best Care Possible. He discusses his recent white paper “A Strategic Path Forward for Hospice and Palliative Care” and his 4-point approach for dealing with the current issues facing end-of-life care in the U.S. Learn more at his website and read the paper below:

irabyock.org

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This episode includes:

  • Why it’s important for insiders in the field of end-of-life care to honestly face the current crisis and the grief we are experiencing
  • Fraud and abuse is a significant problem in hospice care today
  • There is a high variability in quality of care in hospice
  • Palliative care services are inconsistent across the country
  • Leaders in the field are not addressing the problems in the field
  • 70% of hospices are for-profit; profit needs to be tied to quality of care
  • There must be zero tolerance of fraud and abuse in end-of-life care
  • 4 elements of Dr. Byock’s strategic plan

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Ep. 505 How Death Doulas Fill the Gaps in End-of-Life Care with Kacie Gikonyo RN

Learn how death doulas are improving end-of-life care in our medical system by tending to things that often get ignored.

Portrait of Kacie Gikonyo, RN and Death Doula, guest on End-of-Life University podcast episode discussing how death doulas support better dying experiences.

In this episode, I’m joined by Kacie Gikonyo, founder of The Death Doula Collective and Death Doula School. Drawing on more than a decade of nursing experience, Kacie shares how death doulas are helping to transform end-of-life care by addressing the emotional, spiritual, and relational needs that often go unmet by the medical system. We discuss the gaps in Western medical care, the shifts needed in how we approach dying, and how death doulas are bridging the divide with presence, advocacy, and compassion. Learn more at her website:

deathdoulakacie.com

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This episode includes:

  • The limitations of Western medical care at the end of life
  • What death doulas provide that hospitals and hospice often cannot
  • How cultural mindset shifts could improve death care for everyone
  • Why presence and non-medical support are essential for a good death
  • Training and certification insights from the Death Doula School
  • Stories of transformation from Kacie’s doula practice

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Ep. 504 The Ash Rose: Transforming Grief into Beauty with Ian McCartor

Learn about making beautiful memorial art as way of navigating grief and honoring loved ones.

“Ian McCartor, hospice nurse and founder of The Ash Rose project, smiling in a natural setting, wearing a dark shirt.”

My guest Ian McCartor is a hospice nurse, musician, and founder of The Ash Rose, a project that transforms the ashes of loved ones into beautiful rose-shaped keepsakes. In this episode, Ian shares how his work helps individuals navigate grief by creating tangible symbols of remembrance and healing. Ian shares his journey from hospice care to creating tangible symbols of remembrance, highlighting how art and creativity can aid in the grieving process. He delves into the inspiration behind The Ash Rose, the impact it has had on individuals coping with loss, and the broader implications of integrating beauty into end-of-life rituals. Learn more at his website:

theashrose.org

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This episode includes:

  • Ian’s journey from hospice nursing to creating The Ash Rose
  • The inspiration behind transforming ashes into rose-shaped keepsakes
  • How art and creativity can play a role in the grieving process
  • Stories of individuals who have found solace through The Ash Rose
  • The importance of honoring loved ones in unique and personal ways
  • Ian’s perspective on the intersection of grief, beauty, and healing

“Out of the ashes, something beautiful can still grow.”

Ian Mccartor

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Ep. 500 Celebrating a Milestone with Karen Wyatt MD

Join me for a few stories and a brief celebration of the 500th episode of EOLU Podcast!

This week I’m celebrating the milestone of 500 Episodes and I hope you’ll share my joy! I’ll be answering a few questions (submitted by ChatGPT!) and telling a story or two. It has been an incredible experience being part of this ecosystem and I’m grateful to all of my guests and listeners for making this possible. Next week I’ll be back to the regular schedule of interviews. Meanwhile check out my website and YouTube Channel:

eoluniversity.com

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This episode includes:

  • Original vision for the podcast and how it has evolved over time
  • What I’ve learned about the power of listening
  • A special story of synchronicity
  • Patterns and cultural shifts I’ve observed over time
  • What’s next
  • Gratitude for listeners and guests

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Ep. 497 Integrating Doulas and Chaplains in End-of-Life Care with Jane Whitlock and Liza Neal

Learn how doulas and chaplains collaborate to provide end-of-life care in a skilled nursing facility.

My guests for this episode are Jane Whitlock and Liza Neal who both work with the Full Circle Care Program in a skilled nursing facility to support residents and their loved ones during end-of-life journeys. Jane is an end-of-life doula who also helped found the Minnesota Death Collaborative and co-founded Full Circle Care. Liza is a chaplain who has worked to develop spiritual community within and outside faith and multi-faith contexts. She joined the skilled nursing facility in order to be part of the Full Circle Care Program, which we discuss in this interview.

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This episode includes:

  • How the Full Circle Care Program came about
  • The goals for the program and what it consists of
  • The roles of doulas and chaplains and how they work together
  • How they support and educate patients, families and staff around grief and end-of-life choices
  • The community that develops within a residential facility and approaching the experience of grief for everyone in the facility
  • The importance of teaching families and staff how to say goodbye to a dying person
  • How this program helps fills the gaps left by today’s “modern” hospice care
  • Obstacles that have occurred in creating this program
  • Tips for other skilled nursing facilities that might want to start a similar program

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Ep. 494 Integrating Art and the End of Life with Rich Curtis

Learn how a hospice volunteer and doula utilizes his artistic talents to help patients and families.

My guest Rich Curtis is an artist, teacher, hospice volunteer and end-of-life doula. He currently volunteers for Archbold Hospice in Thomasville GA where he has utilized his artistic talents to help patients and their families at the end of life. Rich discusses his own path as an artist and eventually becoming a doula. He shares his drawings and tips for those considering being a hospice volunteer in this conversation. View Rich’s drawings at the link below or watch the video on YouTube to see them on screen:

View Rich’s drawings here

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This episode includes:

  • Rich’s spiritual journey to becoming a doula
  • How Buddhism encourages contemplation of death
  • The value of teaching art students about death
  • How Rich began drawing the hands of patients
  • Why drawings of hands are a unique and powerful remembrance
  • Life stories as told through images of hands
  • Art as an opening to conversations with difficult patients
  • The power of bringing our creative talents to the bedside of hospice patients
  • Tips for hospice volunteers
  • How Rich is creating “Breath Poems” from the sounds of end stage breathing

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If you enjoy this content please share it with others and consider leaving a review on iTunes. Thanks again to all supporters on my page at Patreon.com/eolu, especially my latest supporters Tanya Archambault and Malynda Cress and thanks to Heather Jardine for buying me 3 cups of coffee! Your contributions make all the difference and ensure this podcast stays ad-free.

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Ep. 493 The Good Death: An End-of-Life Guide with Suzanne B. O’Brien RN

Learn what it means to have a “good death” and how and why we all need to prepare for the end of life to benefit ourselves, our loved ones and our planet.

My guest Suzanne B. O’Brien RN is the founder and CEO of Doulagivers Institute and a “pioneer” in the global death doula movement. She has trained hundreds of thousands of people from all around the world to care those at the end of life. Most recently Suzanne is the author of The Good Death: A Guide for Supporting Your Loved One Through the End of Life. She discusses the book and why it’s so important that we facilitate a shift in how we experience death at this time in our world. Learn more at her websites:

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This episode includes:

  • How Suzanne first got started offering free end-of-life trainings to lay people as a hospice nurse
  • Why hospice care alone can’t fix all the problems with how we approach the end of life
  • How as a society we lost generational knowledge about caring for the sick, dying and dead at home
  • Why allowing natural death can be a better choice than aggressive life-prolonging treatment
  • Most family members lack the skills and training to care for their dying loved ones at home
  • As the physical body goes through the dying process the spiritual aspect of life becomes more apparent
  • Contemplating mortality helps us shift our mindset about death and changes how we live our lives
  • How rituals help us cope with the losses we experience in life and death

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If you enjoy this content please share it with others and consider leaving a review on iTunes. Thanks again to all supporters on my page at Patreon.com/eolu, especially my newest donor Connie WS and to John Wadsworth for renewing your pledge. Also thanks to Someone who became a monthly member of Buy Me a Coffee! Your contributions make all the difference and ensure this podcast stays ad-free.

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Ep. 491 The Hospice Team and Whole-Person Care with Barbara Karnes RN

Learn about the benefits of team-based care and how the hospice team works together on behalf of patients and families.

This week I’m welcoming my recurring guest Barbara Karnes RN, who is an internationally recognized thought-leader and expert on end-of-life care and the dynamics of dying. We are continuing our series of conversations on various aspects of hospice care and you can find links to previous episodes in the notes below. Today we discuss the importance of a team approach to care on hospice and the roles played by each member of the team. Barbara is the author of numerous books on death, dying, grief and caregiving including “the little blue hospice book,” Gone from My Sight. Check out her books and videos at her website:

bkbooks.com

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This episode includes:

  • Why team-based care is essential at the end of life in order to meet the needs of the whole person and their loved ones
  • The medical model focuses primarily on physical care but dying is also an emotional and spiritual experience
  • The members of the hospice team and what they do
  • How the hospice physician’s role has changed over time
  • Why creativity in the moment is important for hospice workers
  • How the hospice team shares information and works together to create a care plan with and for patients

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If you enjoy this content please share it with others and consider leaving a review on iTunes. Thanks again to all supporters on my page at Patreon.com/eolu, and to everyone who has bought me a coffee or donated on Paypal! Your contributions make all the difference and ensure this podcast stays ad-free.

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Ep. 489 Influencing Death: Teaching Hospice Care on TikTok with Penny Smith RN

Learn from “Hospice Nurse Penny” how she started working in hospice and ended up being a viral influencer about end-of-life issues on social media.

My guest this week is Penny Smith RN, known on social media as “Hospice Nurse Penny.” She discusses her journey to becoming a hospice nurse and her rise to fame on TikTok during the COVID-19 lockdown. Her new book Influencing Death, Reframing Dying for Better Living is an honest and vulnerable look at her own life story and what she has learned from working with dying patients. Learn more and connect with Penny at her website:

hospicenursepenny.com

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This episode includes:

  • How Penny’s life experiences helped her be a better hospice nurse
  • How she helps family members feel comfortable when their loved ones experience end-of-life visions and dreams
  • How Penny went viral on TikTok
  • What information TikTok users are searching for about death and dying
  • Why social media platforms can be a good place to address misconceptions about death

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If you enjoy this content please share it with others and consider leaving a review on iTunes. Thanks again to all supporters on my page at Patreon.com/eolu, to Simply Celebrate for donating on Paypal and thanks (again) to Robin Bissell for buying me 3 cups of coffee! Your contributions make all the difference and ensure this podcast stays ad-free.

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Ep. 486 Death & Grief in Pop Culture: Songs to Die For with Benjamin Kintisch

Learn about a Top Ten Playlist of songs selected by hospice patients for their own end of life journey.

We start out this new year with another episode our special series: Death & Grief in Pop Culture. This week my co-host Ben Kintisch and I will be reviewing the Top Ten Songs from an end-of-life playlist created by hospice patients in the UK. Ben is a cantor, hospice and eldercare chaplain, music teacher, and the creator of Life Review: The Hospice Musical. Learn more about Ben’s work at his website:

lifereviewmusical.com

YouTube Channel (Check out the full un-edited video there!)

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This episode includes:

  • How the Top Ten List was compiled
  • Why music is a compelling marker for our life histories and companion for our journey
  • The List
  • What was expected and what was surprising about the playlist choices
  • Why end-of-life workers should help people create playlists as part of their legacy
  • Our personal choices to add to the playlist

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If you enjoy this content please share it with others and consider leaving a review on iTunes. Thanks again to all supporters on my page at Patreon.com/eolu and to everyone who has bought me a coffee or made a donation through Paypal! Your contributions make all the difference and ensure this podcast stays ad-free.

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Ep. 485 Highlights of 2024: The Best of the Best with Karen Wyatt MD

Find out what you may have missed in 2024 if you haven’t listened to every episode!

In this solo episode I recap some of the episodes of this podcast that had the greatest impact on me personally and professionally! All of the interviews from 2024 were fantastic but if you missed any of these be sure to take a listen! Thanks for your support this year! Looking forward to another amazing year – be sure to subscribe and leave a rating and review if you enjoy this content.

HAPPY NEW YEAR AND MANY BLESSINGS TO YOU AND YOUR BELOVEDS!

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If you enjoy this content please share it with others and consider leaving a review on iTunes. Thanks again to all supporters on my page at Patreon.com/eolu, especially my latest supporters Nancy Walker and Linda Fennigbauer and thanks to Linda for also making a Paypal donation! Your contributions make all the difference and ensure this podcast stays ad-free.

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Ep. 483 ENCORE: The Evolution of Hospice Care – Our First Interview with Barbara Karnes RN

Enjoy this very first conversation with my friend Barbara Karnes as we get to know one another and discuss our hopes for the future of hospice care.

This episode is a replay of my very first interview with Barbara Karnes RN that appeared on the EOLU speaker series but not on the podcast. Barbara is a pioneer in the hospice movement and a world-renowned speaker, author and educator. You’ll hear us getting to know one another and talking about her work at that time, which has expanded and grown over the years. Enjoy our conversation and remember that some links and programs mentioned back then may have changed. For up-to-date resources go to Barbara’s website:

bkbooks.com

YouTube Channel

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This episode includes:

  • How Barbara first came to work in hospice
  • The inspiration behind Barbara’s very helpful hospice guideline series
  • Barbara’s video: New Rules for End-of-Life Care
  • The difference between home health care and hospice care
  • What Barbara finds discouraging about hospice care now
  • Why she finds hope in the end-of-life doula movement
  • How we care for the dying continues to evolve though the dying process remains the same
  • Advice for new nurses in hospice care
  • Why community education about death and dying is essential

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How Hospice Care Can Bring Families Together

by Karen Wyatt MD

When Gail and Gloria admitted their elderly mother to hospice as she neared the end of her life, they mentioned that they had a younger brother who had been estranged from the family for the past twenty years. The sisters agreed that they did not want him to be notified of their mother’s condition or to be part of the decision-making process. But then they learned from the hospice nurse that their mother had confided her deepest wish: to see her son again and to have her children reconcile their relationships. Finally Gail and Gloria agreed to reach out to their brother and ultimately the three of them were able to heal their differences and care for their mother as a united team. The sisters admitted that they were relieved to see their mother truly at peace at the end of life after they welcomed their brother back into the family.

Stories like this are repeated on a daily basis within hospices around the country. In fact one of the most rewarding aspects of working in hospice is the opportunity to see how families come together and strengthen their bonds when they learn that a loved one is nearing the end of life. Even families that have experienced stress and tension for years have managed to heal their differences when they are called to be at the bedside of a terminally ill family member. Here are some of the ways in which hospice helps to foster this type of reconciliation:

Teamwork is necessary to provide care.

A patient who receives hospice care at home must have family or paid caregivers available around the clock, which takes cooperation to arrange. Family members have to create a schedule for care and decide how to meet the needs of their loved one. This allows an opportunity for negotiation, which can bring out the best (or sometimes, the worst) of each person in the family.

Priorities shift at the end of life.

As patients and their families face their own mortality they often come to see that what really matters at the end of life is different than what mattered before. In the case of Gail and Gloria, their determination to keep their brother away soon faded when they saw how much their mother wanted them to forgive one another. Suddenly their old anger and resentments were no longer the most important issue driving their decisions and they began to see their relationship in a new light. 

Focus is on the needs of the patient.

When families come together to help a loved one they tend to focus their efforts on what is best for the patient, and harmony between family members is always better for the wellbeing of the patient than conflict. Dying people often want to know that their children, parents or siblings love one another and will take care of each other after they are gone. These wishes at the end of life can be powerful motivators for family members to heal their relationships.

Hospice staff helps with communication.

The hospice team includes a social worker, chaplain and often a counselor who are trained to help families with communication. These staff members can facilitate family discussions and mediate when conflicts arise. In our hospice we frequently reached out to estranged family members on behalf of our patients to invite them to reconnect with their loved ones. With help, the majority of these families were able to find peace after many years of disruption.

Caregiving can foster forgiveness.

The act of caring for an ill loved one requires determination and sacrifice, but also leads to deeper connection and intimacy. As family members work together to provide care and meet the needs of the patient they may soften their hard edges and let go of their demands for perfection from one another. This is a scenario that then leads to forgiveness as each person recognizes their interdependence and finds value in being close rather than being at odds with one another.

Hospice teams model compassion.

One of the greatest benefits of working with hospice is the heart-centered focus of the people who make up the hospice team. The nurses, aides, chaplains, social workers, volunteers, and even the administrators of the hospice are all trained to be comfortable with death and have developed their capacity for compassion as well as their medical expertise. When hospice team members visit their patients, family members have the opportunity to observe how to be present with a dying person and how to bring love and calmness to any situation. This powerful learning experience is available to families who choose to admit their loved ones to hospice at the end of life.

Of course, not every family will find a way to come together in peace and reconciliation when their loved one nears the end of life. In fact, some families are split even further apart over conflicts around how and where their loved one should receive care. But the likelihood of healing family disruption is increased when a decision to utilize hospice is made early on in the end of life process. It takes time to let go of past difficulties and find forgiveness so it’s never too soon to begin working toward that outcome. Patients and families both benefit from having more days together to focus on love, care and respect as life is nearing the end—and hospice team members are the perfect teachers and guides for that journey.

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When You Can’t be Present for a Last Goodbye

By Karen Wyatt MD

When my niece died in hospice in another city a few years ago I was unable to travel there to say goodbye before her death. I was crushed that I didn’t have one last opportunity to hold her hand and tell her I loved her, but as it worked out that visit was just not possible.

In an ideal world many of us would like to be with our dearest loved ones at the end of their lives, to say goodbye and “I love you” one last time. But in this day and age we live very busy lives that often take place many miles away from our families so there are times when we cannot travel to be present for those special and fleeting moments.

Some of us may even go to great lengths to get to another city only to find that we missed the final breath by a few hours. This distressing reality can lead to unresolved guilt and grief as we blame ourselves for not being there. But here are some things I’d like you to know about the dying process based on my many years of hospice experience:

  • Dying has a unique time frame.

    Even with the best of medical knowledge we cannot accurately predict when a terminal patient will die. I have seen patients live far longer than seemed medically possible and also patients who died much sooner than expected for no obvious reason. Don’t blame yourself if you cannot be there at the “right” time since you have no way of knowing in advance when that time will be.

    • Dying is an internal process.

    In the last few days before death patients tend to turn inward and focus on the personal work they need to do in order to let go of life. They enter into a semi-comatose state where they seem to be having experiences that we cannot understand. They may express a desire to see a particular family member, but often they are preoccupied with their own process and don’t need much interaction with others. Most likely your loved one is not focusing on whether or not you are physically present in the room.

    • Each person’s preferences are different.

    Some people want to be surrounded by loved ones as they prepare to die, but others need to be left alone in order to complete the work they are doing. We usually cannot predict who will want to be alone in advance and even patients themselves, when asked about it ahead of time, don’t realize that they may need solitude during those last moments. Some people who have always been very social find that they no longer want to interact with others when they are ready to die. 

    While you may want to be there to say goodbye it’s possible that your loved one is content to have fewer visitors at that time. In fact one woman I know spent every moment at her mother’s side so that she would not die alone. But the mother took her last breath during a brief period when her daughter went outside for a few minutes. Apparently she needed to be alone to finally let go and her daughter simply had to accept her choice.

    • Sometimes dying patients seem to delay death

    Again without any medical explanation, some dying patients seem to be able to postpone the time of death in order to “wait” for a loved one who is expected to visit. I have seen many occasions when the patient had an intense need to see someone one last time and, against medical odds, survived an amazing number of extra days, until that person arrived. If your loved one did not wait for you to come please view it as a sign that there was no unfinished business between you and don’t blame yourself for not getting there on time.

    • The dying perceive things that we cannot explain.

    In my work with dying patients I have witnessed their ability to “see” and “feel” the love that others are sending to them, even from a far distance. Many of them have explained that they feel connected to distant family members and “know” that they are loved, even if those people cannot be physically present. Trust that all of your concern and loving thoughts have been received by your dear one and forgive yourself for not being able to be in the room at the time of death.

    If you know you cannot be there and you have a need to say goodbye try calling on the telephone to express your love. The day before my mother died she received phone calls from two dear friends who lived far away. Even though she was semi-comatose she listened as I held the receiver to her ear and smiled at the sound of their voices. She was unable to respond verbally but I could see that she heard the message so I reassured her friends that their farewells got through to her. 

    Remember that you have no control over the timing of your loved one’s death. Follow your heart and travel if you need to and you can but don’t stress if it doesn’t work out. Your effort and your loving intention will still be perceived by your loved one in some way or another.

    Trust that your loved one would not want you to carry a burden of guilt with you and create your own “goodbye” ritual if you cannot be there in person. On the day my niece died I gathered some wildflowers and dropped them into a flowing stream while I spoke all of the messages I would have shared with her at her bedside. My heart became much lighter as I imagined her standing next to me, watching the blossoms drift slowly downstream. 

    May you too find a way to be at peace with every farewell you must speak from a distance.

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    How to Make a Difficult Decision for a Loved One at the End of Life

    by Karen Wyatt MD

    When family members are called upon to make a difficult decision on behalf of a loved one at the end of life it can be one of the most challenging situations they’ve ever faced. This stressful time is made even worse if they have never discussed end-of-life issues and have no idea what their loved one would want for themselves. Many families experience conflicts during these times that can cause feelings of blame and guilt that last for years.

    Every day in this country families struggle with difficult decisions of whether or not to continue medical treatment for loved ones who can no longer speak for themselves. In fact Pew Research Center estimates that about 10% of the general public in the U.S. will have to make such a choice on behalf of a loved one during any five-year time period.[i]

    To avoid such a crisis when a loved one becomes terminally ill it is important to have a conversation now about their end-of-life preferences. But if there’s no time left and you find yourself in the position of having to make a difficult decision for someone who doesn’t have an advance directive, here are some guidelines for how to proceed:

    Gather medical information first

    Talk with your loved one’s doctors and get as many facts as you can. Have the doctors explain the diagnosis and any additional complications that have occurred. Ask about the effectiveness of the treatment being recommended, the chances for recovery or improvement, and any side effects or additional suffering that might be caused by the treatment. Also ask what will happen if treatment is stopped and the condition follows its natural course. You might even ask the doctors what choice they would make if faced with this same decision for a loved one.

    Get expert advice

    If your hospital has a palliative care service ask for a consultation. The palliative care team usually consists of a doctor (or nurse practitioner), nurse, social worker and chaplain all of whom have been trained to help with difficult medical decisions. They can facilitate a discussion with you and other members of your family and offer their wisdom and experience from different perspectives. As a team they will help you understand the medical information and explain all options available.

    Remember past conversations

    Try to recall any past discussions you have had with your loved one when the subject of illness of the end of life may have come up. Think back to a time when your loved one experienced the death of someone close, perhaps a parent or sibling. Did your loved one seem at peace and accepting of the death or fearful and resistant? Try to recall any comments made or issues that were discussed to get some clues about the choices your loved one might make for care right now.

    Consider the statistics

    According to the NIH most Americans say they want to die at home, even though the majority still die in hospitals, nursing homes or inpatient hospice facilities.[ii]

    Also in a Pew Research Center study on attitudes toward aggressive treatment at the end of life, only a third of respondents say they would want everything possible done to keep them alive.[iii] The majority of people feel it would be acceptable to stop treatment in case of severe pain or incurable illness. Do you think your loved one would agree with the majority of people about these issues?

    Ask your loved one for guidance

    This last suggestion might sound strange if your loved one is unresponsive. But studies have shown that patients in coma are still able to hear when they are spoken to. Here is an exercise you can use to help you get in touch with the deeper wishes of your loved one:

    Sit quietly at the bedside of your love one and hold his or her hand. Take some deep breaths to help you get into a relaxed state then say aloud or to yourself, “I have a difficult decision to make and I need your help.” Close your eyes and imagine that you are holding her hand across a table while you sit together and drink tea or wine or whatever would seem natural for the two of you. See her as healthy and vibrant as you ask her what decision she would like you to make on her behalf. Keep breathing slow and deep and wait patiently for an answer from her that might give you a clue about her preferences. 

    Even if you don’t hear an answer during this exercise you will at least know that you tried to find out what your loved one would prefer and that you’ve done everything you could to make the best decision possible. Trust your intuition or “gut” feeling as you have a final discussion with the medical team.

    Be gentle with yourself

    After the decision has been made and carried out, be forgiving of yourself for whatever happens next. Trust that your loved one knows you have acted from love and done your best to make the right choice. If treatment is going to be discontinued you might create a ritual to say goodbye and thank you for the life they have lived and the love they have given.

    Whenever difficult decisions have been made it is normal to later have doubts and questions about the correctness of that choice. Recognize those feeling when they arise, acknowledge the pain, and then see that you are not responsible for your loved one’s life path even though the burden fell upon you to make a final decision. Life is a mystery and the end of life is even more mysterious. We cannot predict or control the events that happen … we simply must do the best we can with the options available to us.


    [i] http://www.people-press.org/2006/01/05/strong-public-support-for-right-to-die/

    [ii]https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2708119/

    [iii]http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2009/08/20/end-of-life-decisions-how-americans-cope/