Learn about a powerful memoir from the life of a death doula who was inspired by his grandmother to sit with the dying.
My guest Darnell Lamont Walker is a death doula, Emmy-nominated children’s television writer, producer and explorer. He creates spaces worldwide for healing through storytelling, end-of-life care, and workshops on grief, resilience, unlocking the writer within, and radical empathy. He is the author of the newly published memoir Never Can Say Goodbye: The Life of a Death Doula and The Art of a Peaceful End published by HarperCollins. Learn more at his website:
How Darnell was first introduced to end-of-life care by his grandmother
The power of storytelling
Why caring for the dying seems foreign to some people but is actually an innate ability
Why we should be training children at a young age to be present with dying or we may pass on our own fear of death
Death within the Black community and the impact of systemic racism, generational trauma, and unequal access to healthcare on end-of-life decision-making
Why listening first is the best way to build trust and get people to talk about difficult subjects
Why we can make better choices for life when we become aware of our mortality
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Learn about a helpful online platform for end-of-life planning and the benefits of using technology for this work.
My guest Paul Fried is an entrepreneur who recognized a need to reshape how we think about end-of-life planning. He founded a digital-first platform that focuses on compassionate funeral planning, digital legacy preservation, and emotional wellness titled I Made the Arrangements. He discusses the value of recording our end-of-life wishes and messages digitally for the sake of our loved ones. Paul is also the author of the book Live Fully. Leave Wisely: End-of-Life Planning as the Ultimate Act of Love. Learn more at his website:
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Learn about a helpful conversation game that encourages discussions about advance care planning for dementia.
My guests for this episode, Lisa Pahl and Jamie Thrower, are the co-creators of The Dementia Deck, a new card game to help inspire conversations about demential. Lisa is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Certified Advanced Practice Hospice and Palliative Social Worker who previously created The Death Deck and The EOL Deck–conversation games that are changing the way we talk about death. Jamie is a queer death doula, end-of-life educator and community grief-tender serving the LGBTQ+ community in life and in death. She also runs Queer Grief Club (and I plan to have her back on the podcast to talk about her work!) They discuss how to use The Dementia Deck to overcome fears of dementia and help families prepare for future changes and decision-making. Learn more at their websites:
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Learn how “peace-of-mind” planning starts with a few small steps that are doable and make a big difference.
My guests this week, Jennifer Tadjedin and Karen Callahan, are the co-founders of The Heartwood Collective where they guide people through all facets of developing a death plan (other than financial and estate planning.) They discuss how their paths crossed as they began exploring new meaningful work around helping other people with planning and preparing for the end of life. Learn more at their website:
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Learn about a new book that addresses challenges faced by patients, providers, and caregivers at the end of life.
My guest Cathy Yuhas is an RN and certified end-of-life doula who founded Dying Matters, LLC to advocate for conscious, compassionate end-of-life care. She is also the author of a new book: Walking Each Other Home: Guiding Caregivers and Community Through the Sacred Passage of Death. Learn more at her website:
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My two guests this week are administrators of Caring House, a non-profit residence for hospice patients in Torrance, California. David Zartman is the Executive Director of Caring House having previously been a successful entrepreneur. Joanna Franco is the Director of Operations with many years of experience as both a caregiver and a residential care coordinator and manager. They discuss the history of Caring House and how residences like this are essential for communities that want to fully support end-of-life care for their people. Learn more at the Caring House website:
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In my position as a retired hospice physician I often hear stories of end-of-life experiences that did not go well for patients or their families, both in the hospital and at home. When people describe the challenges theyโve faced, even when working with a local hospice, I tell them that a death doula might have made all the difference. But most have never heard of a death doula and have no idea what they do.
Unfortunately many people are unaware of this rather new field of deathcare that is poised to change how people and their loved ones navigate death, dying, and what comes after. But Iโm here to tell you about it so you can have more options and make better decisions for yourself and your loved ones when you are in a time of need.
What Is a Death Doula?
A death doula is a non-medical guide who offers emotional, spiritual, and practical support before, during, and after death. We often say that death is much more than a medical experienceโit is a personal, emotional, spiritual, familial, societal experience that we have largely chosen to ignore for the past century. Most people at the end of life need far more than medical care alone can offer.
Hospices have been created to help with the medical aspects of care and also offer social work and chaplaincy support. But in this modern world of Western medicine, hospice staff members are often carrying heavy caseloads and may have constraints on the time they can spend with patients and families. Many gaps in care can arise for those being served at their time of greatest need, which leads to the stories of suffering Iโm often told.
Unlike hospice nurses, who manage the medical aspects of end-of-life care, death doulas arenโt bound by institutional rules or time limits. They show up and fill in the gaps during those times of great need. In the best of worlds they work alongside the hospice staff, each offering their expertise and collaborating for the best care possible. But when the hospice staff experiences pressure to shorten visits, the death doula is more able to focus on presence for as long as needed.
What Do Death Doulas Actually Do?
The services offered by death doulas vary widely and some may choose to specialize in one area or another. Some doulas sit at the bedside, some hold space in advance when illness is newly diagnosed, some serve the dying directly through the last breath, others assist families and caregivers with after-death plans.
What unites them is a passion for changing how we care for people at the end of life. The people called to this work are devoted and excel at being present during times of suffering with love and compassion. Here is a list of some core services provided by death doulas:
Death educationย โ helping people understand the dying process, physically and spiritually, including early in the process of illness
Advance directives & planningย โ guiding people through end-of-life paperwork with compassion
Ritual designย โ creating meaningful vigils, farewells, or legacy ceremonies
Family supportย โ helping loved ones navigate grief, guilt, and decision-making
Hospice augmentationย โ providing what hospice often canโt: time, touch, storytelling, bedside presence
After-death guidanceย โ assisting with body care, home funerals, or grief rituals
Meaning-makingย โ helping the dying reflect on life, purpose, forgiveness, and legacy
Why This Work Is Still So Unknown
While the modern death doula movement got started in the early 2000โs, the work of providing support to the dying is ancient and used to be available in every neighborhood and village. But modern healthcare and burial practices that emerged at the turn of the 20th century caused a dramatic shift in illness and death care away from the family home and into institutions. So over the span of a half century we lost all the intrinsic knowledge of how to care for our own dying loved onesโand we made death taboo, the very aspect of life we used to hold near us so tenderly.
The death doula movement is trying to revitalize the โold waysโ of being with dying in a new formโnot necessarily a next-door neighbor, but a trained helper who can show up at your door in a time of need with just the right tools to offer. Most people are unaware of death doulas and many communities lack access to this kind of care because the movement is still young. But things are changing and we can help them change fasterโby talking about death doulas and sharing whatโs possible. And also by getting training ourselves so that we can be the ones holding presence when the people we love are at the end of life.
Why Everyone Needs What Death Doulas Offer
Itโs hard for most of us to imagine what the end of our own lives might be like. If we have not experienced the death of someone close to us we have no idea what it involves and what it takes to make the last breath as peaceful and loving as possible. Thatโs one reason why so many people are caught off guard when they suddenly find themselves caring for someone 24/7 with absolutely no training or understanding of whatโs happening.
Take it from those of us who have been through these scenarios many timesโyou will need support when someone you love is dying and at the time of your own death. Youโll be better off if you spend some time now learning about the work of death doulas and if there are any in your community.
Some aspects of death care that you may not think of nowโbut you will need laterโinclude:
Permission to grieveโnot just at the time of death but throughout the process of illness
Time to reflect on life and relationships and what is needed for healing old emotional wounds
A sense of meaning and tying up loose ends; making sense of the events of life and how they have mysteriously unfolded for you
Guidance when systems fall short, which they inevitable will; you will have impossible decisions to make and will need support through that process
A calm, compassionate presence that can change everything for the people going through loss; a tragic experience can become sacred in the presence of love
A role model for how to show up for one anotherโnot just in dying, but in living with more depth
โIf you donโt need a death doula today, you will someday. Or someone you love will. And when that time comes, I hope you know they exist.โ
Death Doulas and Modern Technology
At this time of rapidly expanding technology and artificial intelligence there is even more need for the human touch and heart-based presence of a human death doula. While AI may be able to augment the work of doulas by recording advance directives, researching funeral poetry and customs, or offering tips to caregiversโin the quiet moments and the liminal spaces where the breath falters and the veil is thinโthe touch of a human hand, the tear that falls on a cheek, the softly whispered blessing, are not replaceable.
Death doulas may choose to use AI themselves to augment their training, to learn about unfamiliar cultural or religious death traditions, to find recipes for a clientโs special dietary needs, or the perfect prayer for a vigil. But they should not fear the technologyโthe need for human presence will never disappear.
How to Choose a Death Doula
Remember that there are many different types of services offered by death doulas, so be clear about what type of help you need. Consider factors like training, area of specialization, availability, experience, and certification when making a choice. Many doulas will offer a free consultation to get acquainted before you decide who to hire.
Check with local hospices, palliative care facilities or community websites to find out if there are doulas in your area. In addition the following organizations have national doula registries where you can search within your state and community:
Be sure to talk to your loved ones if youโre interested in the possibility of hiring a death doula. Let them know that everyone benefits when the right care and assistance are available. And now that you know about death doulas pass this information on to others who may need it as well.
You matter because you are you, and you matter to the end of your life. We will do all we can not only to help you die peacefully, but also to live until you die.ย
-Cicely Saunders
Check out my next post on Substack where Iโll explore how AI might help us deepen our own death awareness.ย
Learn about a helpful workbook and a free workshop toolkit to support people who are navigating a life-changing diagnosis.
My return guest Dr. Hsien Seow is a palliative care researcher and a professor in the Department of Oncology at McMaster University. He is a co-host with Sammy Winemaker MD of The Waiting Room Revolution Podcast and they are both the authors of the book Hope for the Best Plan for the Rest. Today we discuss the new workbook that accompanies the book and a workshop toolkit they are offering at no charge. Learn more at the website:
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Learn about an exciting new training to become a Death Literacy Educator and teach in your community.
My return guest Francesca Lynn Arnoldy is a doula and a published researcher with the Vermont Conversation Lab and she runs a program for Death Literacy Educators. She is the author of The Death Doula’s Guide to Living Fully and Dying Prepared, My Death Journal, The Map of Memory Lane, and Cultivating the Doula Heart. Today she discusses the importance of training educators who can help our communities grow in knowledge, understanding, and awareness of death. Learn more at her website:
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Learn what it means to have a “good death” and how and why we all need to prepare for the end of life to benefit ourselves, our loved ones and our planet.
My guest Suzanne B. O’Brien RN is the founder and CEO of Doulagivers Institute and a “pioneer” in the global death doula movement. She has trained hundreds of thousands of people from all around the world to care those at the end of life. Most recently Suzanne is the author of The Good Death: A Guide for Supporting Your Loved One Through the End of Life. She discusses the book and why it’s so important that we facilitate a shift in how we experience death at this time in our world. Learn more at her websites:
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Find out what you may have missed in 2024 if you havenโt listened to every episode!
In this solo episode I recap some of the episodes of this podcast that had the greatest impact on me personally and professionally! All of the interviews from 2024 were fantastic but if you missed any of these be sure to take a listen! Thanks for your support this year! Looking forward to another amazing year โ be sure to subscribe and leave a rating and review if you enjoy this content.
HAPPY NEW YEAR AND MANY BLESSINGS TO YOU AND YOUR BELOVEDS!
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Recently there has been a growing focus for individuals in our society to look at their hopes and desires for the end-of-life and put those wishes into writing. The Five Wishes document and The Conversation Project Starter Kit, along with many online options, have helped people think about that day when life will come to an end and put those thoughts and feelings into writing.
But the most important step in the end-of-life planning process is toย talkย about those wishes with loved ones and that conversation is often difficult to initiate. How do we start talking about death with people who arenโt sure they want to discuss it? How do we address the experience of loss and grief, which is also often avoided in our society?
One idea is to use a film, perhaps during a family โmovie night,โ to help introduce the topic and get the discussion started. Films project the stories of characters onto the screen and allow us to look at difficult subjects from a distance without feeling personally involved. The stories portrayed in movies can also inspire the imagination, stir up emotions and provoke deep thoughtsโall of which can be helpful during a conversation about death and grief.
Here are some suggestions for creating a special โmovie nightโ exploration of death and grief:ย
Allow ample timeย
Choose a night when nothing else has been planned so there will be time and space for the conversation to unfold naturally after the film.
Keep it cozy
Make sure the seating arrangements are comfortable for everyone, provide snacks and beverages, and minimize outside distractions that might take attention away from the film and the conversation.
Select the film carefully
Consider the age and comfort level of the people you want to engage in conversation as you make your choice. Also be clear about your objective: do you want to inspire a discussion about death in general or do you have specific topics to bring up such as hospice care or living fully at the end of life or facing grief after the death of a loved one?
For example,ย The Bucket Listย is a great film to kick off a conversation about how to live life fully when you know you are going to die.ย His Three Daughtersย shows the difficulties of family dynamics when one member is dying.ย Terms of Endearment focuses on the mother-daughter relationship and portrays the dying process and the grief that follows. Many holiday movies likeย The Christmas Checklistย focus on characters who are experiencing grief when others are celebrating. If children are part of the conversation,ย Theย Lion King, Cocoย orย Upย could help address issues of grief after loss and the fact that death is a normal part of life.
Have a few questions readyย
Donโt force the conversation but be prepared to get it started with your own comments or questions. For example ask โWhatโs on your bucket list?โ or โWhat would you give as a gift if you knew it was your last Christmas?โ or โHow do you think Mufasaโs death changed Simba?โ or โHow did the Christmas Checklist help Emily process her grief?โ
Do it again
In case your first movie night conversation doesnโt go as well as hoped, plan to try again with a different film and a different approach. These conversations are challenging but extremely important so donโt give up on the idea!
Since death is a natural and universal part of our human existence we really should be talking about it on a regular basis. Get creative and imagine how you might bring up the discussion after other films your family might watch together. Remember that families who have talked about death are more likely to have positive experiences when a loved one reaches the end of life. Itโs definitely a conversation worth having!
When it was time for Doris, an 85-year old woman with biliary cancer, to be discharged from the hospital, her physician suggested to her and her family that she be admitted to hospice care. But Doris refused hospice care even though her family members strongly supported the doctorโs advice.
Itโs not unusual for a patient to have concerns about signing on to a hospice for care and for families to get caught up in a struggle as they try to find the best care possible for their loved one. There are many reasons a patient like Doris might say no to hospice and itโs important for care providers and family members to try to understand her feelings. Here are some steps to take if you find yourself dealing with a loved one who refuses hospice care:
Listen without judgment.
Begin by calmly listening to whatever the patient needs to say. Donโt argue or try to persuade her to change her mindโjust listen to see what you can learn about her feelings.
Ask why she is not comfortable with hospice.
If she hasnโt told you yet her reasons for saying no, ask her why. But again, donโt argue with her reasoning. Careful listening will help you understand her better and get a glimpse of how she views end-of-life care. She may have misconceptions about hospice or she may have had a traumatic experience with death in the past. Provide her with a safe space to express her feelings even if you donโt agree with them.
Validate her emotions.
Let her know that you understand why a decision to begin hospice care can be frightening and overwhelming. Donโt push or rush her to choose hospice but agree that she has the right to turn it down.
Gently provide reassuring facts.
Once you understand where her resistance is coming from you can gradually begin to provide additional factual information about hospice. Again, donโt argueโjust mention some of the details about hospice and how it functions as a way of answering her fears. For example, many people fear that accepting hospice care means that death will come more quickly. In this situation you might explain that a study has shown that patients who receive hospice care actually live longer than patients with an identical diagnosis who do not receive hospice care.
Arrange for her to meet someone from hospice.
Invite a hospice staffer to meet her and answer questions. Connecting with a real person who represents the hospice team can go a long way toward reassuring the patient that hospice care is provided with compassion and empathy as well as expertise. During that face-to-face meeting you can bring up some of your loved oneโs questions to show her that you are on her side and share her concerns.
Respect her wishes.
Let your loved one know that she has control over her own decisions and that you will honor her choices. She needs to feel supported or her resistance to hospice might increase if family members apply too much pressure.
Offer alternatives.
If palliative care is available in your area see if she might agree to accept that rather than hospice, since she will be able to continue curative treatments while receiving palliative care. Some patients may also agree to be admitted briefly to a home care service for evaluation of their potential for improvement. This temporary measure could buy some time while your loved one adjusts to the idea of hospice care.
Ultimately no one should be pressured into receiving hospice care if it doesnโt meet her preferences. But most patients who initially refuse care from hospice end up agreeing to it eventually and feeling good about their choice. We must allow patients the freedom to choose their own course with whatever timing is best for them. Showing respect for their right to make decisions for themselves is an important step to help patients embrace their own individual end-of-life process.
When family members are called upon to make a difficult decision on behalf of a loved one at the end of life it can be one of the most challenging situations theyโve ever faced. This stressful time is made even worse if they have never discussed end-of-life issues and have no idea what their loved one would want for themselves. Many families experience conflicts during these times that can cause feelings of blame and guilt that last for years.
Every day in this country families struggle with difficult decisions of whether or not to continue medical treatment for loved ones who can no longer speak for themselves. In fact Pew Research Center estimates that about 10% of the general public in the U.S. will have to make such a choice on behalf of a loved one during any five-year time period.[i]
To avoid such a crisis when a loved one becomes terminally ill it is important to have a conversation now about their end-of-life preferences. But if thereโs no time left and you find yourself in the position of having to make a difficult decision for someone who doesnโt have an advance directive, here are some guidelines for how to proceed:
Gather medical information first
Talk with your loved oneโs doctors and get as many facts as you can. Have the doctors explain the diagnosis and any additional complications that have occurred. Ask about the effectiveness of the treatment being recommended, the chances for recovery or improvement, and any side effects or additional suffering that might be caused by the treatment. Also ask what will happen if treatment is stopped and the condition follows its natural course. You might even ask the doctors what choice they would make if faced with this same decision for a loved one.
Get expert advice
If your hospital has a palliative care service ask for a consultation. The palliative care team usually consists of a doctor (or nurse practitioner), nurse, social worker and chaplain all of whom have been trained to help with difficult medical decisions. They can facilitate a discussion with you and other members of your family and offer their wisdom and experience from different perspectives. As a team they will help you understand the medical information and explain all options available.
Remember past conversations
Try to recall any past discussions you have had with your loved one when the subject of illness of the end of life may have come up. Think back to a time when your loved one experienced the death of someone close, perhaps a parent or sibling. Did your loved one seem at peace and accepting of the death or fearful and resistant? Try to recall any comments made or issues that were discussed to get some clues about the choices your loved one might make for care right now.
Consider the statistics
According to the NIH most Americans say they want to die at home, even though the majority still die in hospitals, nursing homes or inpatient hospice facilities.[ii]
Also in a Pew Research Center study on attitudes toward aggressive treatment at the end of life, only a third of respondents say they would want everything possible done to keep them alive.[iii] The majority of people feel it would be acceptable to stop treatment in case of severe pain or incurable illness. Do you think your loved one would agree with the majority of people about these issues?
Ask your loved one for guidance
This last suggestion might sound strange if your loved one is unresponsive. But studies have shown that patients in coma are still able to hear when they are spoken to. Here is an exercise you can use to help you get in touch with the deeper wishes of your loved one:
Sit quietly at the bedside of your love one and hold his or her hand. Take some deep breaths to help you get into a relaxed state then say aloud or to yourself, โI have a difficult decision to make and I need your help.โ Close your eyes and imagine that you are holding her hand across a table while you sit together and drink tea or wine or whatever would seem natural for the two of you. See her as healthy and vibrant as you ask her what decision she would like you to make on her behalf. Keep breathing slow and deep and wait patiently for an answer from her that might give you a clue about her preferences.
Even if you donโt hear an answer during this exercise you will at least know that you tried to find out what your loved one would prefer and that youโve done everything you could to make the best decision possible. Trust your intuition or โgutโ feeling as you have a final discussion with the medical team.
Be gentle with yourself
After the decision has been made and carried out, be forgiving of yourself for whatever happens next. Trust that your loved one knows you have acted from love and done your best to make the right choice. If treatment is going to be discontinued you might create a ritual to say goodbye and thank you for the life they have lived and the love they have given.
Whenever difficult decisions have been made it is normal to later have doubts and questions about the correctness of that choice. Recognize those feeling when they arise, acknowledge the pain, and then see that you are not responsible for your loved oneโs life path even though the burden fell upon you to make a final decision. Life is a mystery and the end of life is even more mysterious. We cannot predict or control the events that happen โฆ we simply must do the best we can with the options available to us.
Learn about a helpful tool for organizing all your records and files for your later years and your loved ones.
My guest Maria Fraietta is the founder of The Nokbox, which is a complete system that helps you organize all of your accounts, possessions, social media presence, communities, kids, pets, personal history, and estate plans. Maria is a former high school teacher and lives and works as an entrepreneur in Littleton, Colorado. She discusses the importance of being organized and prepared as we look ahead to later life. Learn more at her website:
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Learn about a senior living community that is bringing end-of-life doula training to residents, thanks to the efforts of its chaplain.
My guest Tom Waknitz is a chaplain and end-of-life doula who is working with Walker Methodist Senior Living Community to establish a unique end-of-life program for residents called Passages. He is certified by INELDA and is currently earning a Master of Divinity Degree. After serving his first year as an end-of-life doula, Tom shares his innovative ideas for serving people and their families in transition at the end of life. Learn more about Passages and Tom’s coaching services at these websites:
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Learn how a physician creatively meets the needs of patients who don’t qualify for hospice services.
My guest Dr. Kaishauna Guidry is an author, podcaster, healthcare advocate, mentor and educator. She came to medicine and hospice later in her career and founded Mourning Dove Medical as a private mobile medical practice, serving home-bound patients at the late stages of life and she is the author of The Real Deal About Hospice: Short Stories Highlighting the Advantages of Hospice Care for Patients and Families. She discusses her path to this work, her books and podcast, and how she coaches physicians who want to begin working with hospice. Learn more about her work at her website:
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Learn about an informative and inspirational book to help seniors find love in their lives after experiencing loss through death or divorce.
My special guests this week, Drs. Gloria Horsley and Frank Powers, are a senior couple who met later in life, after experiencing loss. Gloria is a marriage and family therapist and Frank is a psychologist so between them they possess a lot of knowledge about grief, loss and relationships, including the deadly impact of loneliness on seniors in our society. Together they’ve written the book Open to Love: The Secrets of Senior Dating, which springs from their own experience of meeting and falling in love through a senior dating app. They share their tips and suggestions for seniors looking for love and facing the challenge of dating after a long-term relationship. Learn more at their websites:
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Learn about a trilogy of documentary films that inform and inspire conversations about death, dying and the afterlife.
My guest Johanna Lunn is an award-winning producer, director, and writer, who has crafted many compelling, entertaining, and profoundly thought-provoking programs during her 20+ years in the business. She is the director and producer of the When You Die Documentary Trilogy. Johanna discusses how she founded WhenYouDie.org to foster awareness about death by curating many voices to share their stories–from palliative care clinicians, death doulas and the bereaved, to poets, comedians, and artists. Learn more at the website:
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Learn about a helpful new tool kit that’s not just for end-of-life doulas but can benefit anyone who cares for others at the end of life.
My three guests this week, Diane Button, Gabby Elise Jimenez, and Angela Shook, are all end-of-life doulas who have teamed up to create a helpful guidebook for other doulas: The Doula Tool Kit: The Complete Practical Guide for End-of-Life Doulas and Caregivers. We’ll learn all about the book and how this trio came together to write it. Plus they’ll share some of their tips for doulas and what motivates them to do this work. Learn more at their websites:
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If you enjoy this content please share it with others and consider leaving a review on iTunes. Thanks again to all supporters on my page at Patreon.com/eolu, especially my newest donor Jan Booth and to Linda Read for increasing your pledge. Also thank you to everyone who has bought me a coffee or joined the $10 for 10 Years Campaign! Your contributions make all the difference and ensure this podcast stays ad-free.